• Skip to main content
  • Skip to header right navigation
  • Skip to site footer
Gameranx

Gameranx

Video Game News, Lists & Guides

  • News
  • Features
  • Platforms
    • Xbox Series X
    • PS5
    • Nintendo
  • Videos
  • Upcoming Games
  • Guides

Fans Miss The Point Of Borderlands 4 Replacing Ava With Amara

October 8, 2025 by Ryan Parreno

That badass in the story could have been Ava.

Table of Contents[Hide][Show]
  • Did Amara Receive Ava’s Redemption Arc?
  • Borderlands 4’s Own Story Corroborates This Rumor
  • Ava Isn’t Likely To Come Back Anytime Soon
  • Does Ava Deserve A Second Chance?

Yesterday, we reported on Borderlands 4 swapping in Ava for Amara in the story campaign. It looks like there was a lot more to it than fans assumed.

EpicNNG, who originally shared the rumor, pointed this out on Twitter:

Seen a few people say how much better it was to have Amara in the game over Ava

Where do you guys think her dialogue is from?

Did Amara Receive Ava’s Redemption Arc?

EpicNNG reinforced this point even further in replies. He said this to someone asking if they changed the dialogue to fit Amara’s character:

No it’s legit just Ava’s dialogue lmao

I mean they changed a few lines but that’s all really

He also addressed this argument from KalevalaNite:

It was certainly not “late in production” Amara’s segment was like the first section we ever saw

EpicNNG replied:

It was late in production.

Borderlands 4’s Own Story Corroborates This Rumor

Paul Tassi argued in a Forbes article that there is clear evidence in the story that Amara was slotted in to take Ava’s place.

For one, Amara mysteriously brought Ava’s pet Hermes around with her. Aside from that, she used some of Ava’s powers in the story.

While both are Sirens, we do know that Sirens can manifest their powers differently. Amara’s and Ava’s powers are different enough that you could tell them apart.

Ava Isn’t Likely To Come Back Anytime Soon

EpicNNG also claimed that Gearbox isn’t likely to change their minds and add Ava in.

At least, it’s not happening anytime soon. He believes Gearbox has already finalized their year 1 DLCs, and she would not have survived the cut.

Does Ava Deserve A Second Chance?

It looks like Gearbox did the right thing when they decided to cut Ava. Tassi shared this sentiment in his article, but he’s not the only one.

Ultimately, Gearbox chose to make a game that will please fans. While some gamers dislike the idea of being pandered too, Gearbox may have felt they had to in this case.

The Borderlands franchise as a whole is beloved. But the more recent batch of games have not been turning out as popular or successful as everyone hoped.

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel is probably the biggest failure the franchise has experienced. 2K Australia, who made the game with Gearbox, closed a year after it released.

Borderlands 3 was received much better, but also received its criticism. So Gearbox may have some ambitions for Ava and the franchise’s story, but they have to prioritize making good games.

This does not necessarily close the door on Ava. But Gearbox will have to come up with something to make her more appealing to the fans. At least for now, Gearbox has other things to prioritize.

Share this post:

FacebookTwitterLinkedInPinterest

Recent Videos

10 Games That Make YOU WEAKER AS YOU PROGRESS

10 Games That Make YOU WEAKER AS YOU PROGRESS

10 WEIRD Gaming Stories of January 2026

10 WEIRD Gaming Stories of January 2026

Cairn - Before You Buy

Cairn - Before You Buy

CRAZIEST GAME EVER, GTA6 PHYSICAL EDITION DELAYED? & MORE

CRAZIEST GAME EVER, GTA6 PHYSICAL EDITION DELAYED? & MORE

Top 30 NEW Open World Games of 2026

Top 30 NEW Open World Games of 2026

Code Vein 2 - Before You Buy

Code Vein 2 - Before You Buy

Highguard - Before You Buy

Highguard - Before You Buy

Resident Evil Requiem: 10 Things You NEED TO KNOW

Resident Evil Requiem: 10 Things You NEED TO KNOW

10 Nastiest, Craziest & Longest Areas in Video Games

10 Nastiest, Craziest & Longest Areas in Video Games

Category: UpdatesTag: 2K, Gearbox, PC, PS5, Switch 2, Take-Two, Xbox Series X/S

Sidebar

Recent Posts

  • Rumor: Dusk Golem Denies Ada Wong And Chris Redfield Will Be In Resident Evil Requiem
  • Pre-Orders For Virtual Boy For Switch Online Have Sold Out For 2026
  • AdHoc Promises To Address “At Least Some” Censorship For Dispatch On The Switch 2 In The Future
  • As Highguard Launches 5v5, Devs Say The Most Important Thing “Is To Get Eyeballs On Our Game”
  • Rumor: A Metroid Movie Is In Development

Copyright © 2026 · Gameranx · All Rights Reserved · Powered by Mai Theme